Forget the Grand Concourse at Sydney Central and plug into the Rover Lithium 70Ah Power Station from Companion instead.
This station offers 3-way charging with an AC adaptor for a full charge before your trip, then DC or solar charging via the built-in MPPT controller to maintain some charge in the field. Power your campsite from multiple outputs including a 12V socket, 4 x USB, 1 x USB C, and 2-pin output. The 70ah lithium NMC battery with 850 Watt-hours, is designed to improve energy density and prolong the life span to allow 800 cycles.
The power station has a lightweight functional design, battery protection management system, integrated LED light, and LCD display so you can easily check up on your charge. It’ll take 9 – 14 hours for a full charge, with DC charge cable, AC charge cable, and 50A Anderson to 30A Anderson power pole cable all included.
For a power solution that will take you to more destinations than The Indian Pacific, you can’t go wrong with Companion’s Rover Lithium 70Ah Power Station.
How long would this run a standard fridge (dometic 40 litre) before it runs out? Before charging off solar
G'day Nathan,
The Rover has approximately 56Ah of runtime before needing charge input - this equates to a rough 80% cycle.
Check the specifications on your particular fridge for the rough power consumption, which usually comes in Ah.
If you divide 56 by the power consumption of your fridge, you'll get an idea of runtime.
Hope that helps.
Can you use the unit to start a 4 wheel drive .
G'day Eric,
This unit does not have jump-start capabilities.
You may need to look at purchasing a separate jump starter unit, or as an alternative look at something like the Hard Korr Battery box.
This does have a jump start terminal, and has the option for you to choose whatever capacity/chemistry battery is required to meet your needs.
It states 200 cycles then 80 percent there after What do they class as a cycle-from 100% to say 15% then recharge back to 100% In my case when I received it 74% was it’s status 240 volt charge to 100 percent Now I left home yesterday with it at 94 % and the 2hr drive took it back to 100% I’ve run fridge off it now for 20th s and it’s 91% So what is classed as a cycle then
G'day Barry,
A cycle is generally considered as a full discharge, which in this case is 100% down to 20%.
If you keep your battery above 75% it will generally prolong the life of the unit when compared to heavy discharging.
Rover has cig plug & two pin outputs!! I have unsuccessfully hunted around for a cable with two pin at one end and my fridge plug at the other One lead (at BCF) had two pin which went into Rover but other end plug although same shape as my fridge one it did not connect I’ve tried also Jaycar & Supercar Auto—no go Is there a place in Melbourne that has a larger range of cables—
G'day Barry,
It depends on what brand of fridge you have, but it's unlikely. The posifit terminal is not a standard connection available to some fridge brands.
Your best bet would be to grab a standard 12v cig double adapter, which will allow you to run 2 12v cig devices from the Rover. Just bare in mind the overall combined load from both appliances dont exceed the 10A output capacity.
Watching Snowys video on HardKorr 200 watt Portable Solar panel the Snowy presenter said the legs on the back of panels gave the correct angle I have tried mine yesterday going by this and at 9am facing North East got a reading on the Rover of 84 thru 89 watts and raised the Rover from 66-% to 79% in under 40 min Can I expect better come spring/summer
G'day Barry,
Given we're in the dead of winter, I'd say that's a pretty good outcome & certainly nothing to complain about.
The panels have a maximum output of around 11A, so in ideal conditions, you'll get an output towards that top end of things.
The HardKorr 200 watt Portable solar panel legs on the back are flimsy and I don’t think any good Certainly not in wind To get the 30-40 degree is there stands that will support panels at this angle I had them on their flimsy legs today at 9am till almost 10 and was pulling 80 to 90 watts Battery went from 64 % to 79% but as said I had no idea what angle A product out there that will support at required angle
G'day Barry,
All feedback from customers and staff members who own these panels suggests the legs are more than capable of supporting the panels, and shouldn't be of concern.
You are welcome to replace them or find an alternative if you prefer, but it will likely need to be a DIY solution as there's nothing we're aware of as an 'off the shelf' option.
My HardKorr panels arrived today and a damn miserable day —light rain and a non evident sun So lining up where I believe sun crosses my car park I connected to my Rover 70 and even tho it was lousy dull day it was sending 3 to 4 watts Do you stick to facing in an east direction and fiddle to you achieve best sun intake —I’ll say one thing they work so any advice on positioning be a help And thanks for all previous assistance
G'day Barry,
If you are not hanging around camp and have the ability to adjust your panels during the day to maximise your output, I'd keep them north facing at a 30-40 degree angle.
We currently have fixed panels on our vehicle, but prior to that would often move our portable panels over the course of the day. That's not uncommon for people to do this, especially if you have areas of dappled shade that moves. Starting off more east facing in the morning, and moving over to north as the sun gets higher.
Ive camped in some spot where they've had to be moved every hour or two because the shade was changing so much!
Getting new panels is pretty exciting, so feel free to have a play around with them and move them, change the angle, etc as much as you like until you get used to them & see how the output is affected.
I have just purchased a Companion Rover 70 amp power station together with 200 watt HardKorr heavy duty solar panels The Rover I have & panels are in transit I’d hoped to have them both as last three days have had good sun—today very overcast My question is what could one expect in watts output on each of those contrasting weather patterns Thanks
G'day Barry,
These's no real way to answer this question with any specificity I'm sorry, as it ultimately depends on the panel's age and cell technology, and there are alot of variables to the conditions. Hard Korr may have some more specific data with their tech team, you can reach out to them here, the only other option is to do some testing with an irradiance meter.
Is it possible to connect this to a inverter?
G'day Matilda,
No, these units are not designed to be used with inverters as they dont have the discharge capacity to deliver the amount of power usually required to power 240v appliances.
Generally, best practice is to not require 240v appliances when you are camping, and just use 12v options. If this is unavoidable I would be looking at higher capacity deep cycle battery option to go in a battery box, or purchase a portable power station that has a 240v outlet built in, and has the output requirements for your appliance.
I'm a bit confused about the battery indicator. When it says 50% have I used 35 amps (half of 70 amps) or half of the usable power (80% x 70amps = 28amps)? Or put another way, how much usable power is left when the battery indicates 50%?
G'day Zac,
The indicator is advising you that the Rover is at 50% capacity.
The battery capacity is 70Ah (so you have used 35Ah) meaning you only have 30% of useable power left.
When the capacity is inching toward 20-25% you'll need to get power back into it.
How long will the battery last if running an Engel MT35F-G4ND-V fridge with rated current at 12 V of 3.0 A.
G'day Geoff,
The Rover 70Ah battery has an 80% lifecycle which equates to 56Ah of use.
56Ah divided by 3Ah draw of the fridge equals just over 18 hours.
Hope that helps!
Had mine and my 45l waeco fridge for 6 months or so now, full time in my car. If I don’t use my car, the battery will run the fridge for 3 days no problem. I mainly just keep it half full with water and soft drink in it. Also, FYI the alternator will charge this battery quickly so depending on your commute time, it could go indefinitely. My commute is 5mind though so I have not factored this in to my answer at all. I’m just telling you I get three days from a half full, unused 45l fridge if completely untouched.
Thanks for the feedback, Michael!
Is this battery compatible with being charged from a Hard Korr 200W Heavy Duty Solar Mat?
G'day Mick,
200W is a great size for the Rover 70Ah, and the Crocskin panels have the right output specs for it. As the Rover has a built-in MPPT charge controller, you'll just need to bypass the one provided with the Crocskin panels when charging.
What is a good permanent solar panel to use with this? And a good blanket? I have been using it in my car as a dual battery but it does not charge as fast as it drains from the fridge (80L waeco) on full charge I get 3 consecutive days out of the battery running the fridge freezer but while driving I have to have this battery plugged in to the car and the fridge in to the car, if I plug the fridge in to the power station it drains too fast. Will a good panel charge it better while driving than the car? I run out of juice on my car battery for the first time today after using this for nearly 12 months and just want to make sure I don't get stuck again.
G'day Armand,
The Rover has the following input specs from 12V - 14V 9A, and Solar - 13-30V 12A, so just from that we can see the capacity for input current is much greater for solar.
Most of the panels around would be in the 18-20v mark, which would put you in the ballpark for 250W panels. If you found some at that 30v end you could get up to 360W panels.
The bigger your panel is, the greater your potential for charging is over 12v.
The other thing to consider is that 12v charging through your vehicle can cost you up to 15% fuel efficiency, so factoring all these things in, I'd be prioritising Solar.
Hope that helps somewhat.
Why does the rover 70 only have a stated 800 cycles where the rover 40 has 2000 cycles are those figures correct?
G'day Craig,
Those figures are correct, and its down to the different battery chemistries used in the two Rovers.
The Rover 40Ah is LFP, whereas the Rover 70Ah in NMC.
The NMC chemistry has a much higher energy density, a higher nominal voltage, and has up to double the discharge current rate of LFP. It's a bit of give and take with battery chemistries, so the trade-off of this is that you end up with less lifecycles.
Can i charge this from my 300w fixed solar panel
G'day Jeffery,
The Solar Input requirements for the Rover 70Ah are 13-30V 12A (Max).
Different make and model panels will have different outputs. Two different 300W panels may have different V & A ratings.
You'll need to check the output on the sticker on the back of your panel for compatibility.
What is the best solar blanket to use when recharging the battery?
G'day Simon,
The Solar input requirements on the Rover Lithium 70Ah Power Station is 13-30V / 12A (360W) max.
As long as the output specs of the solar blanket fit into these requirements, you'll be fine. I'd recommend looking at the largest size you can to maximise charging efficiency. Something like the Hard Korr 200W Portable Solar Panels with Crocskin Cell Armour or the Companion 200W Solar Charger would be a good place to start.
Has anyone noticed that the black box used t o charge the unit via 240volt heats up quite a lot while charging? The light is red while charging and when reaches 100% turns green.
G'day Michael,
There is no need to worry here, it is very common for 240V transformers to heat up while charging. Most laptop chargers and other device chargers will get just as hot, which is completely normal.
NMC can get quite entertaining if it's charged or discharged when hot. Q1 - what thermal protection does this have? Q2 - what is the minimum and maximum temperature for charge and discharge?
G'day Tony,
Companion state -10° to 40°C as the ideal temperature range on the Rover Lithium 70Ah Power station, but they haven't provided any information on thermal protection. I've touched base with them to see if I can get anything further on this for you.
Are there any known adapters that would allow other connection types so the 2 pin socket can be used for something other then an engel fridge? EG adapters for 2pin/anderson or 2pin/cigarette plug, or anything else. Besides an engel fridge, what other devices could be plugged into the 2pin socket?
G'day Darryl,
This is a common question, and as far as my research has taken me, the answer is no. At this stage I'm yet to come across an adapter for this port, however, the best workaround is to purchase a good quality double adapter to plug into the 12v cigarette outlet, which will allow you to run two standard 12v cigarette appliances/devices.
Hi, you can purchase the plug and make up a lead, as I have done, then there are no issues with the plug becoming dislodged. I added an anderson plug to the other end and use the rover as back up for my SLA set up, just unplug and swap inputs to the fuse box
Can you charge this in the car's 12v socket while driving? One commented here it cannot? I just want to be sure.
G'day James,
Yes, you can charge the Rover Lithium 70Ah from your cars 12V socket while driving. The review from Graham has been negated in his following review. He had a faulty charger, that Companion has since replaced for him.
Wasn’t in the user manual (unless I accidentally skipped over sorry!)
G'day Lachy,
Being a Lithium battery the Companion Rover Lithium 70Ah Power Station will be fine if left on its side.
As long as you have easy access to the control panel you shouldn't run into any trouble.
Would this be suitable to charge a laptop?
G'day Maddie,
No, the Companion Rover Lithium 70Ah Power Station cannot charge a laptop as it does not have 240v output.
It may be possible if you add an inverter into the equation, but that's not a straightforward answer as it depends on your individual laptop's power requirements, etc.
You can charge a laptop through the USB-C port. With my MacBook I take the 240 volt plug off and am left with a USB-C cord. It charges at a rate of 3 amps which is 45 watts which should be fast enough to use the laptop at the same time as charging.
G'day Kylie,
Thanks for the tip, you're correct, if you've got a USB-C charging option, then yes, you can charge up a laptop.
As this battery has an in-built MPPT, and I assume the same brand solar panel would be a suitable combination, would you simply connect the Companion solar panel via Anderson cable directly into this battery to let the MPPT control and not connect the solar panel controller?
G'day Kat,
You can use any kind of solar panel with the Companion Lithium Rover 70Ah Power Station, they do not have to be the same brand, but they do need to meet the Amp and Wattage requirements. Ultimately you'll be using a 'raw' panel and plug that straight in, or if you have existing panels with the solar regular attached, you'll need to bypass those.
Basically, you'll be looking at panels within around 160-360W, the higher the wattage, the shorter your change time will be.
Hope that helps!
I have a solar panel with a built-in pulse-width modulator. Can I use this solar panel to charge the Rover Power Station?
G'day Lauren,
Unfortunately, this combination won't work. The Rover unit has a built-in MPPT solar controller, so you'd need to bypass the PWM modulator on your solar panels if you wanted to use them to charge the unit.
Is there an adapter available to convert 2-pin output to 12v socket output? Or can I use a double adapter on the 12v socket output?
G'day Steve,
As far as we know there aren't two-pin to 12V Cig socket adapters on the market, but Engel does make their 2-pin posi-fit plugs separately (we don't currently range them) so they can be wired into a custom lead, so you could possibly use of these to make an adapter. You could use a double adapter on the 12V Cigarette output, it is limited to 10A though, so you'd need to consider what you plug into it.
Is the 2 pin 12 v socket the same as the engel plug? Or is it compatible with a different plug?
G'day Dan,
Yes, the 12V 2-pin plug is the same as the Engel Posi-Fit Plug.
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G'day Luke,
The inbuilt MPPT unit is only designed to be used with solar panels. The 12V lead will input 9A per hour, so it will charge relatively quickly.
How long will it run a 40 litre Engel or Dometic fridge for?
G'day Dicky,
There isn't a hard and fast rule here, but generally speaking, a Lithium Battery can be run down to about 20% of its capacity before it will stop working, so your theoretical maximum output is 56Ah, divide that by your draw (generally 1-2AH for most Engel / Dometic 40L models in fridge mode), and you should get around 25- 50 hours of run time from the Rover Lithium 70AH. The total usage time will vary depending on the temperature conditions, the fridge, which mode it is running on, and a few other factors. We'd recommend ensuring you've got a way to keep the Power Station constantly topped up, usually a solar panel is a good option.
What is the shelf live of this product? One year doesn’t seem very long?
G'day Ruben,
The Rover Lithium 70AH is covered by a 2 year warranty period, which will cover any manufacturing-related faults with the unit. They should be fully charged at least once every six months, and best practice is to charge the unit before storing. The one year shelf life refers to how long the battery can sit unused while retaining a high level of charge. Lithium batteries will hold onto their charge for a long period of time unlike Lead Acid.